MT: Camaro V6 1LE - M2 - Focus RS - Fiata Abarth - 718 Boxster S - Toyota 86

"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction) 01/24/2017 at 12:01 • Filed to: None

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PCOTY for the rest of us. Who ya got? I was surprised by the results, but if you read the whole article, it looks like the voting was very split, with the 5th place finisher getting at least 1 place vote. Spoilers in the comments!

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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 12:04

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I really enjoyed my test drive in the new Miata, and prefer its styling (and motor, as do most reviewers, it seems like) to the Fiat. I wonder what aftermarket suspension would be most similar to what the Abarth’s got going on...

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 12:11

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What is PCOTY?

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/24/2017 at 12:13

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Performance car of the year?

RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/24/2017 at 12:13

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Plebian car of the year

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 12:15

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No link to the article? Gotta go with the RS in this comparo, assuming cost is ignored.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 01/24/2017 at 12:19

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Kinja’d...

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/fiat/124-spider/2017/chevrolet-camaro-1le-bmw-m2-ford-focus-rs-fiat-124-spider-abarth-porsche-718-boxster-s-toyota-86/

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire 01/24/2017 at 12:21

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Hahaha!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/24/2017 at 12:24

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Link was Kinja’d...

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/fiat/124-spider/2017/chevrolet-camaro-1le-bmw-m2-ford-focus-rs-fiat-124-spider-abarth-porsche-718-boxster-s-toyota-86/

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 12:39

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The 124 at #1?!? Holy wow, I wasn’t expecting that.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 12:47

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Yeah I was really intrigued because of that review. I didnt know about the suspension in the Abarth. A shame that engine turned out to be such a turd. I really liked my ND test drive (on an autox course) since it really felt exactly like my NB but with more power.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 12:57

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Wow, RS gets last place? Consider me triggered

kiwi_matt > RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire 01/24/2017 at 13:00

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Correct. If you can’t afford at least a 911 Turbo S than what’s the fucking point. Maybe you should get to work earning money.

/s

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 01/24/2017 at 13:06

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To be fair, it’s an AWD hatch in a sea of RWD sports cars.

RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > kiwi_matt 01/24/2017 at 13:24

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got a discount on mine

(kidding, btw)

Jayhawk Jake > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/24/2017 at 13:26

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And at the end of the day it’s a $35,000 Focus

Matt Nichelson > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 13:50

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There’s a reason Hammond reviewed the 124 last week and not Clarkson. I imagine it’s a great car, but it isn’t for tall people, so it isn’t for me. Also sure there are a lot of butthurt Focus fans after that article.

Milky > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 13:51

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I frankly don’t think Fiata getting the #1 spot is surprising. I test drove a 124 Lusso and a Miata and thought both were great. But I kept thinking about how much better the Abarth probably sounded.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Jayhawk Jake 01/24/2017 at 13:52

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That said, I’d rather have the RS than the 124 and 86, if I had to choose between those three.

Jayhawk Jake > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 01/24/2017 at 14:15

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If I had to choose between those three I’d question how my life led me to that point.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Jayhawk Jake 01/24/2017 at 14:28

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it’s the only fun car in this list that i could sneak past my wife’s discretion.

Jayhawk Jake > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 01/24/2017 at 14:30

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Sounds like time for a new wife

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Matt Nichelson 01/24/2017 at 14:39

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I’m 6'1", 225 and I just barely fit in the new Miata. But I do!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 01/24/2017 at 14:40

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Yeah, I was pretty surprised at that, too.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 01/24/2017 at 14:42

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I guess if you really wanted to pay for it, you could replace the ND’s suspension with the Abarth’s. Something to be said about having a nice, supple suspension on a car you drive a lot, though.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Jayhawk Jake 01/24/2017 at 14:42

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Wives, the only hobby more expensive than cars.

Just ask the Donald.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 01/24/2017 at 14:42

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Nope, me neither. Really enjoyed test-driving the ND, though.

jasmits > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 01/24/2017 at 15:18

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Gotta keep in mind that all of those are great driver’s cars.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 15:20

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I am sure the Flyin Miata solution has ought to be just as good, if not better. After market is always the way to go with Miatas anyways. But I really like what FM did for NA/NB in terms of performance/price/comfort balance. So I imagine they would have an excellent setup for the ND. Between that and the the BRZ/86 though, I probably would not choose the Miata.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 01/24/2017 at 15:47

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I still need to get a test drive in a BRZ.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 15:54

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Yes, definitely. I immediately noticed the terrible Prius tires but I just liked how modern the car felt and how much more space there was. This was in addition to it handling in the same fun way my Miata does. And since I drive a Miata, I obviously had no perception of the FRS being slow lol. Although I am not sure if comparing cars 14 years apart is really a fair fight haha.

Matt Nichelson > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2017 at 15:56

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With the top up? Is it comfortable at all?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Matt Nichelson 01/24/2017 at 16:06

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Yes, top up. I took a decently long test drive and honestly didn’t feel too cramped. My knees were pretty close to the steering wheel, though (34" inseam). I was able to look straight out the windshield, which I felt like I couldn’t do in the NC (top of the windshield was obstructing my view out).

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 01/24/2017 at 16:08

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The 86s are definitely much more usable as a transportation device than any Miata is.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/25/2017 at 07:26

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Eh there are ups and downs of both. When creative, I can fit a lot of stuff in/on my Miata. Particularly oblong objects like my skis. Sure, my skis could fit inside of an 86 with the back seat down but that might get in the way of my elbow or the passenger. And a ski rack seems like it would be difficult with the curved roof. But the luggage rack on my Miata makes skis a piece of cake. I do wonder if 4 wheels with tires fit in the back of an 86, then that would change my tune.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 01/25/2017 at 08:51

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I think the cargo space was intentionally designed to allow for that...